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May
16, 2005
Vernon
Robinson on Record: From Councilman
and Congressional Candidate to Party
Leader
Interview for NCGOP
Chairman's Race
by John T. Plecnik
This
interview was offered to both candidates for North
Carolina Republican Party Chairman: Councilman
Vernon Robinson and NCGOP Chairman Ferrell
Blount.
- Dear
Sirs,
- Like
most North Carolinians, I tend to focus on
general elections, rather than primaries and
intra-party races. However, I recognize the
importance of party leadership. And, with our
state convention swift-approaching, many
activists have put forward some remarkably
relevant questions. The following interview
represents a handful of these inquiries, and I
hope that you can both find the time to answer
your friends and fans across
Carolina.
- Sincerely,
JTP
The Interview:
1.
Many Republicans -- many activists -- are skeptical
that NCGOP chairs have anything to do with the
success or failure of their Party. Why are they
wrong? As chairman, what power would you hold to
help us achieve our ultimate goal, i.e., beat the
Democrats?
Robinson: The chairman, more that any
other person in the state other than a Republican
Governor, has the ability to use the bully pulpit
to move a conservative agenda. For example, had I
been the GOP Chair when Sen. Tony Rand took the
Bible and Cross out of the Senate Chapel, I would
have been on a plane going from town to town
holding press conferences until Democrats begged
Rand to put the Cross and Bible back in the Chapel.
The current Chair's response was nothing. You can't
use a bully pulpit if you are afraid of the press
and have an ineffective communications effort.
I've see a council of state candidate so fire up
a crowd, that even candidates up ballot would adopt
his position because they wanted to have positive
response from the crowd as well. That council of
state candidate was me in the 1996 State
Superintendent's race. A chairman can do that as
well.
A little common sense can go a long way. We need
to put out the Republican Standard newspaper again
because many older activists do not use the
internet or e-mail and they get no talking points
from the NCGOP. They are largely silent in the
Social Security debate because the current flawed
communications strategy has left many of our most
credible spokespersons on the side lines and
dependent on the liberal media.
A chairman can boost activist involvement by
eliminating the fee for the business portion of the
state convention or tax activism by charging
registration fees so that only 1,000 of 15,000
authorized delegates and alternates ever show
up.
The Chairman can provide voter contact
information to every grassroots activist with
internet access as I provided to volunteers through
Completecampaigns.com. The California party
contracts with the same company for distributive
campaigning internet applications. With new
leadership, the NCGOP will also.
The chairman can push a conservative agenda as
articulated by the platform in the General
Assembly, inform the grassroots about what is going
on in the General Assembly and let the chips fall
where they may. Alternatively the chairman can call
GOP elected officials names and focus on
personalities. When I become chairman the NCGOP
will stop doing the latter and start doing the
former.
The GOP Chairman can intervene in the
gubernatorial primary, judicial and other primaries
and thus not be able to unify the party for the
general election and for the governing conservative
majority after the election. Alternatively, the
NCGOP can stay out of primaries and put the
interest of the party above personal considerations
as I did when Congresswomen Foxx defeated me in the
GOP runoff. As your chairman, I'll do something
that hasn't happened lately, concentrate on beating
the Democrats.
2.
The election year performance of the NCGOP has
proven to be a campaign issue. Some say we
performed well. Others vehemently disagree. Name
the biggest success and chief failing of the NCGOP
in 2004.
Robinson: The biggest success was the
re-election of President Bush. Although we've only
lost North Carolina to the Democrats in a
presidential race once in 40 years. Targeting
resources on a race that was over in August
resulted in our chief failing
the lonely
landslide at the top of the ticket. The carnage
down ballot included having the worst performance
in the governor's race in thirty years, failing to
recruit candidates in six winnable house seats,
becoming the only Southern state to lose a
legislative majority in '04, losing Senate seats
including Ballentine's old seat to a lesbian, and
losing five majorities on county boards of
commissioners. Compare that record to Virginia,
South Carolina and Georgia, our neighbors with GOP
control of both houses of the legislature and two
GOP governors to boot!
3.
Looking to the national stage, prominent
Republicans and Democrats alike are prepping for
presidential runs. Congress will be hotly contested
in the next two election cycles. And, the
ideological divide between both parties has never
been greater. What single issue must the national
party address to succeed in 2006, 2008 and
beyond?
Robinson: The single most important issue
is immigration reform. We must secure our borders,
deport illegals, and make English to official
language of the United States. The current chairman
supports the administration's amnesty plan and
refused to send out an e-mail to inform activists
about the rally at the Mexican Consulate against
the "terrorist" id cards issued there because "my
orders come from Washington." I was the keynote
speaker at that rally, I oppose the
administration's amnesty, I made immigration reform
the centerpiece of my campaign for congress, and my
orders come from the executive committee not
Washington. Immigration reform is sound policy and
great politics.
4.
Partisans on both sides insist that real experience
and records of success are required for a good
chairman. What political or life experience
prepares you to lead the NCGOP?
Robinson: I believe that a movement
conservative who actually achieved policy goals is
a better fit to lead the NCGOP than an access donor
fundraiser who is a stranger to the conservative
policy debate. I laid the ground work for charter
school legislation and drafted the provisions of
the House version of what became the 1996 charter
school law.
I am the only candidate for chairman who has
been elected and re-elected to office much less
from a Democrat district.
I strongly believe in immigration reform and
defense of marriage and ignored the polls in my
congressional race last year when the polls said
that the only thing voters cared about was
jobs.
As an elected official I turned down the access
donors looking for government handouts. I turned
down my friends and donors because I wasn't elected
to take other people's money in taxes and give it
to them. It is better to have a chairman who has
said no the access donors than one who has catered
to their every need.
I raised $3 million in my campaign for congress
by articulating a clear conservative message that
37,000 people felt was worthy of finance support.
Grandmothers, nurses, school teachers and even some
unemployed who never asked of me anything other
than taking our country back.
I offered a chairmanship back guarantee not as a
marketing gimmick but to communicate that having
worn the uniform of this country as an Air Force
Academy cadet and an active duty and reserve
officer from 17 years old until I was 35, I
understand that the commander is always responsible
for what happens on his watch. I will take full
responsibility for the results of the '06 election
and if I cannot do a better job than the current
chair did in '04 then I will resign.
5.
More specifically, some claim that one candidate or
another is a better fundraiser and will infuse the
party with more resources. What plan do you have to
ethically increase the flow of funding to good
candidates at the local, state and national
levels?
Robinson: First, we must communicate a
clear conservative message in a new contract with
North Carolina. Donors are much more likely to give
to support strongly held beliefs than they are to
give to keep the lights on in the headquarters.
Lack of a coherent conservative message not only
hurts us with independents and democrats at the
polls but hurts us in the bank account. I raised
$447,000 on the internet, a record that will not be
soon broken. There is no reason to believe that
substantial increases in internet fundraising
cannot be achieved with a coherent message. Without
a coherent conservative message, the direct mail
effort has to resort to gimmicks or worse to
attract contributions. With a new contract with
North Carolina, telemarketing and direct mail will
both be more effective. If the current chair is
such a good fundraiser, why did Democrat executive
committees outspend GOP committees 8 to 1 in '04?
And if he couldn't deliver in '04 what has changed
for '06?
6.
On the topic of fundraising, the incumbent College
Republican National Committee (CRNC) has come under
fire for presiding over a fundraising campaign that
appeared to target elderly donors with deceptive
fundraising letters. The most infamous mailer
(attached to this interview) promised elderly
donors that President George W. Bush would wear an
enclosed flag pin at the Republican National
Convention, if they returned it with a
contribution. This mailer was signed by CRNC
Treasurer Paul Gourley, now a candidate for CRNC
Chairman.
The
North Carolina Federation of College Republicans
voted to join Michael Reagan and Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger by endorsing the reformist
candidate, Chairman Michael P. Davidson of the
California College Republicans. But, NCFCR Chairman
Tripp Costas flipped from supporting Davidson and
held a meeting to endorse Gourley. When Chairman
Ryan Cassin of the Michigan Federation of College
Republicans betrayed his state party by supporting
the infamous treasurer, Michigan GOP Chairman Saul
Anuzis removed him from office, pursuant to Article
II, Section III of the CRNC
constitution.
Since
it's common knowledge that state party chairs may
recognize new CR leadership at will, they are
ultimately held responsible for whom their CRs
support. As chairman, will you be responsible for
scandal or reform?
Robinson: The NCGOP cannot be party to
the systematic defrauding of senior citizens. I
believe that young people will make mistakes and
should be corrected. But this is serious business
not some out of control frat party. I would explain
to Mr. Costas that his conduct directly reflects on
the NCGOP and having apprised him of the situation,
I will give him an opportunity to renounce his
support of the grifter Paul Gourley. Should he
decline to do so, I would replace him with a young
man or lady who will conduct themselves and the
business of the Federation in a manner that
reflects credit on them and the NCGOP.
7.
From College Republicans to campus conservatives,
liberal bias on campus remains an important issue
in North Carolina. Across the state, Stalinist
professors and administrators seek to indoctrinate
the next generation of conservative leadership. As
chairman, how will you aid students in battling the
bias?
Robinson: As a former college professor,
I ran interference for the College Republicans as
their advisor. I have been invited to speak on a
number of campuses and aggressively went after the
socialists pretending to be college professors. I
have participated in an affirmative action bake
sale on the UNC-G campus. I have integrated CRs
into my campaigns and supported clubs financially.
I was very tough on Republican candidates in the
5th district who sat on boards of trustees and let
conservative college kids there twist in the wind.
The current chairman acts as if he was afraid of
offending some major donor on a trustee board
somewhere. I will support the conservative students
not the daddy warbucks trustees.
8.
Retaking the state government is among the hottest
issues of this campaign. Although, in the
aggregate, Republican candidates for state
legislature polled higher than Democrats, we are in
the minority in both Houses of the General
Assembly. And, despite a record of waste and
failure, "Tax-Hike Mike" remains in the governor's
mansion.
We
were out-spent and (some argue) out-hustled at the
state level. What can we do to beat the Democrats
and take back Raleigh?
Robinson: As hard as it may seem to
younger conservative activists given last year's
bleak results for the GOP at the ballot box as the
rest of the South roared past us with GOP
majorities, once upon a time in 1995 there were 69
members of a GOP majority in the North Carolina
House of Representatives and 24 GOP members of the
North Carolina Senate. The GOP Chairman was Jack
Hawke and the instrument that created the
Republican revolution in Raleigh was the Contract
with North Carolina.
The contract was straight forward. If the voters
gave control of the General Assembly to Republicans
for the first time since reconstruction, the GOP
promised to bring to the floor and vote on several
bills long languishing in the bowels of the
legislature. Even though there was no state wide
race other than judicial races, the contract
created a coherent conservative message across
North Carolina. Jack Hawke recently explained that
legislative candidates in each media market pushed
the same message creating a statewide echo chamber
for conservative government.
The contract wasn't perfect. Many conservative
education reformers including myself sharply
criticized the contact for its wimpy education
plank. At least 12 members of the House opposed any
school choice language. Many conservative
Christians criticized the initiative plank after
the majority was elected as a lottery Trojan horse.
But despite those problems, the voters understood
that the GOP's contract offered change and the
other side offered nothing but corruption,
confiscation and cultural warfare.
The GOP majority after the initial heady days of
1995 began to backslide, became timid on fighting
for conservative values and looked a lot like the
Democrats in the General Assembly. One GOP
legislative leader said that Republicans went too
far to the right in that 1995-96 session. In 1996,
without full-time chairman Hawke to hold it
together, GOP had no coherent message and lost
seats. GOP legislative leaders were even more
scared and timid during the 97-98 session and were
appropriately rewarded by the voters in 1998 by
losing the GOP majority.
Since 1995, a succession of part-time GOP
chairmen have left the NCGOP wanting for
leadership, failed to articulate a clear
conservative message, ran an ineffective press
operation, became internet dependent, and ceased
publication the Republican Standard newspaper so
that for the majority of activists over 60 (those
who do not use the internet or e-mail) the NCGOP
"message" was reduced to an occasional poorly
written piece of fundraising mail.
The new contract should include the Taxpayers
Protection Act and make a commitment to rightsizing
a state government that continues to grow
uncontrollably. Immigration reform including
tightening driver's license and election security,
making English the official language, encouraging
state and local law enforcement to use criminal
trespass laws to detain illegals and crushing
in-state tuition for illegal aliens should be a
central part of the new contract. A contract plank
on educational opportunity should include K-12
scholarships, removing the cap on the number of
charter schools, reform of the UNC system and
replacing the terribly flawed North Carolina K-12
testing process with nationally normed tests with
diagnostic capability to help teachers and parent
help children.
A new contract must offer a constitutional
amendment to defend marriage and a commitment to
abolish racial quotas in university admissions,
employment and contracting as well as tort reform
making the case that we have to stop the
disappearing doctors from rural areas so that
children can receive primary care. Finally, the
contract must offer good roads and expose
corruption in state government with a commitment to
root it out (considerably easier with Les Merritt
as State Auditor).
These planks are not cast in stone but provide
an idea what I think should go into a contract with
the people of North Carolina.
9.
Speaking of Raleigh, what plans do you have for
1506 Hillsborough Street? As chairman, do you
intend to draw a salary? If so, how
much?
Robinson: Jack Hawke, a full time
chairman was the most effective in NC history. I
would eliminate the position of Chief of Staff
which was created to go around the authority the
Central Committee. I believe that the level of
damage, disorder, distress, and disunity is so high
that the NCGOP requires a full time Chairman. I
will submit a budget to the central committee after
consulting the remaining staff and several former
chairmen about revenue projections. That budget
will include me as chairman/executive director and
Fern Shubert as my number two with both my hiring
and compensation decided by the Central
Committee.
Finally, I have always hated how elitists in the
GOP use Christian conservatives to get out the vote
and make the voter contact phone calls and then
treat us like lepers after the election. They would
rather rub shoulders with wealthy Democrats than
ones that brung'um to the dance. I hate that. When
I am elected that treatment at NCGOP headquarters
will be gone and I will take the "staff only" ropes
down in the headquarters as a symbolic physical
gesture to return the party to its conservative
grassroots base.
Plecnik
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John
T. Plecnik (JTP) is a 21-year-old law student at
Duke University and a Featured Columnist at The
Conservative Voice (www.theconservativevoice.com),
Lincoln Tribune, a weekly newspaper in
Lincolnton, NC., and various other online and print
publications. He earned a Bachelor of Arts in
Accounting with a Minor in Mythology and graduated
summa cum laude, sharing the title of
Valedictorian, from Belmont Abbey College. Email
your comments to John at John.Plecnik@law.duke.edu.
Copyright
(c) 2005 by John T. Plecnik. Reprinted with
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